Glen, COO of Dry Cleaning Connection, interviews Ron Kupferberg of ARKAY Studios.
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Transcript
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Glen Gould
Welcome to the Connections. My name is Glen Gould with Dry Cleaning Connection, and we’re here today with my good friend Ron Kupferberg of RKO Studios. Ron, I’m really excited to hear more about your studio and what you do. And of course, you know, I know you and but our friends don’t. So why don’t you tell me a little bit about you and what RKO Studios is?
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Ron Kupferberg
Okay, that’s a long story, but I’ll try to keep it as short as possible. RKO Studios is a it’s basically my name and initials spelled out A R for R and K, k y for K, Kupferberg. And it’s here in my the studio is here in my home and I’ve been doing photography for probably 50 years professionally for probably 35 years.
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Ron Kupferberg
And so I’ve been in the business for quite a while. I started in New York City where I was. My career started as a graphic designer.
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Glen Gould
Oh, really? Now where who were you working for there?
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Ron Kupferberg
When I got out of college. I got a job with a small design studio that was doing a little drawings for newspapers and magazines to advertise Mattel toys.
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Glen Gould
I probably saw a lot of your work.
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Ron Kupferberg
I don’t know. I don’t.
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Glen Gould
Know. I was individual toys about that time. Yeah. Oh, wow. Absolutely.
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Ron Kupferberg
Okay. Well, it was a short lived program, and it was like two guys and me. They hired me out of school. So the money was I think I don’t even think I made 65 bucks a week at that time. Anyway, the point is that they started me and with the knowledge or they refined the knowledge that I had from college and helped me get a little bit more further in my life.
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Glen Gould
And where’d you go to school?
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Ron Kupferberg
I went to New York City Community College. Okay. It’s a two year program. I didn’t have the desire to go to a four year college. Sure. Because I was always interested in creativity, doing creative stuff around the house. Yeah.
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Glen Gould
And you got the world’s greatest college when it comes to creativity right in your backyard. New York. Oh, my gosh.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah, sure. I was blessed that way. And yeah, so I said and it’s a very it was very expensive. You know, schools and college was very expensive for my family. Sure. And I’m an only child.
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Glen Gould
Did you grow up in New York?
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Ron Kupferberg
In Jackson Heights, Queens.
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Glen Gould
Jackson Heights, Queens. I’ve I’ve been through there a couple of times in a past life. I lived on the island and toured once while going to the city.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah, we were very close to LaGuardia Airport.
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Glen Gould
Yeah. Yeah.
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Ron Kupferberg
So anyway, so I went to school there and started in this little studio and within six months I was out looking for another job because they couldn’t afford to keep me. And I started with an advertising agency that I happened to be in line for extra courses in the local schools, for art schools. Right. And the guy in front of me was one of the graphic designers that worked for this advertising agency that was also looking to perfect timing.
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Ron Kupferberg
Perfect timing. So we got together. He introduced me to the art director at this advertising agency, and they hired me. And it was I was a good program for the first seven months that I worked there and then I got drafted.
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Glen Gould
Oh, my goodness. So you you went where where? I mean, as far as service.
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Ron Kupferberg
I went to basic training at Fort Gordon. Okay. And that was my introduction to Georgia and my first time doing anything outside of New York City.
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Glen Gould
Okay.
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Ron Kupferberg
And within another seven months of that, oh, after I was I went through basic training. I was immediately assigned to the provost marshal’s office as a clerk typist.
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Glen Gould
Yeah.
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Ron Kupferberg
Okay. And, but actually what they had me do was graphic design for them. I was making little desk plaques.
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Glen Gould
So once again, your experience and your and your passion kind of fit it and then it kept you out of being deployed, I guess. Wrong. Oh, well, there we go.
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Ron Kupferberg
What I was about to say is that I was working directly for the provost marshal and he liked me, wanted me to proceed in that vein of what I was doing through my career as a two year inductee and he was ready to pull the plug and keep me there. And he died of a heart attack.
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Glen Gould
Oh, no.
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Ron Kupferberg
It was during the lunch time. I’ll never forget it. Within a week or so of that, I got my orders for Vietnam.
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Glen Gould
And how long did you spend in Vietnam?
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Ron Kupferberg
365 days.
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Glen Gould
Well, thank you for your service. I know it wasn’t your choice, but maybe. Maybe you were happy to do it. But either way, thank you.
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Ron Kupferberg
Well, yeah, I wasn’t my choice for sure. I would want I would have wanted to go to Germany because my parents actually spoke German and they were.
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Glen Gould
Oh, yeah. Well the last. I didn’t even think about that. Yeah.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah. I mean I would have, of course it would have been ideal, but it didn’t work out there.
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Glen Gould
Now, were they from Germany or.
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Ron Kupferberg
My father was from Poland or Czechoslovakia. Okay. My mother was born in East Africa.
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Glen Gould
Really?
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah. She was born in what is now Tanzania, but it was Tanganyika at the time and my grandparents on her side, or my father’s grandparents parents were import export. They owned an import export company out of Germany. So they spoke German. Right. And they moved back to Germany when my mom was only four years old.
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Glen Gould
Wow. So, I mean, you, you know, you find out people who live in New York and, you know, so many of them have such rich history in their background. And and you’re no different. It’s, you know, a lot of different influences that came into your life. So so you got out of you. You were discharged after Vietnam. Yes.
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Glen Gould
Okay. Yes. And where did you go?
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Ron Kupferberg
I went right back to that advertising agency that hired me. Yeah. It was a law that they had to hire.
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Glen Gould
Right? Right.
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Ron Kupferberg
And I worked for them for another year. And the some of the people have had changed employees that and some one especially. It was somebody that I had to work for and with. And I didn’t care for him at all. So I started looking for another job and I got one with another design studio and long story short, again, my, my experience was expanded.
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Glen Gould
Yeah.
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Ron Kupferberg
And I had some interesting accounts that don’t ask me what they were, but they, they just kept me my mind thinking and the people that I was working in the small studio was, it was like for other people, they were pretty creative and they just, you know, they just kept me sharp.
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Glen Gould
Interesting.
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Ron Kupferberg
And so from there, I went to a a pharmaceutical advertising agency, which was huge. It was William Douglas MC Adams. If they’re still in existence, I’ll be I’ll be surprised. But they were in New York City.
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Glen Gould
Right.
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Ron Kupferberg
And they they handled millions of millions of dollars of advertising and promotion for their clients. But I was only doing a very segmented part of design, and I didn’t care for that. So I kept looking for this.
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Glen Gould
Since this seems like a recurring theme in your in your you like change.
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Ron Kupferberg
I yeah I get bored pretty quickly I guess you could say that, which.
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Glen Gould
Is good if you’re a photographer because you’re always changing and always seeing different things.
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Ron Kupferberg
Well, here’s the caveat now. I have not started even into my photography.
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Glen Gould
Yeah, I know. I’m just. I’m John. I’m saying you’re obviously it’s gone forward. So it will be good, but.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean from William Douglas Macadams I moved to corporate through I don’t even remember how I got to know the job. I think it was The New York Times was looking for a graphic design and art director capabilities, and I said, I’ll try and what have I got to lose? So it was Chesebrough-Pond.
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Ron Kupferberg
You probably familiar with it.
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Glen Gould
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Pounds cold cream. I know that one. Yeah, that’s right. There’s lots of products.
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Ron Kupferberg
Like not only lots of products in the health and beauty products area, which is what I was responsible hired to be responsible for in terms of packaging and promotional design, the that that particular company owned prints rackets at the time.
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Glen Gould
Oh, okay. So that was during the time when, when the big corporate conglomerations where they, you know, you got RJR Nabisco and things like that all running together.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah, correct. Yeah. And they were in Greenwich, Connecticut, I was living with my then wife and in Retail Park, Queens, and it was taking me about an hour to get to work every day. And I said, We got to move now we did have my daughter shortly after I got hired. So that kind of convinced us that, yeah, it’s time to move, okay?
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Ron Kupferberg
And we were able to find a house in Norwalk, which was about a half an hour away from Greenwich. And I stayed there for eight years. And then I said, I’m going to try my own do my own thing. Either way, when I was at Chesebrough they I had the opportunity to work with a lot of photographers in the work that I had done.
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Ron Kupferberg
And these photographers were in New York City and it was a short commute because right on the border.
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Glen Gould
Right.
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Ron Kupferberg
People live in New York on the island or have shorter or have longer distances to travel.
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Glen Gould
Sure.
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Ron Kupferberg
So that’s what gave me my experience in terms of techniques.
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Glen Gould
Yeah. So you’ve got all this graphic design and advertising background, so you know how to make things look good and you know what people want to look at and where they want to look at it. And things like that. So I guess jump forward to where you got into photography.
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Ron Kupferberg
I was I would say I got into photography when I went to Vietnam.
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Glen Gould
Okay.
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Ron Kupferberg
The problem is I’ve never had an expensive camera. So I was using a box camera at the time. I think it was a brownie. And I just shot the environment that I was in. And I have a I have a an album here somewhere of the pictures that I shot around the camp. Okay. And so you always.
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Glen Gould
Kind of had that.
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Ron Kupferberg
Interest. Oh, it was pine.
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Glen Gould
And so I know that you had obviously a very extensive and rich corporate career. You tried to do your own thing. Did that pan out?
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Ron Kupferberg
I didn’t try to. Well, no, it didn’t pan out to what I thought it could be.
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Glen Gould
Right.
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Ron Kupferberg
But it became a freelance job based. Okay. So it was yes, it was my own job, sure. But it was.
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Glen Gould
What they would have called you get a gig? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So you you obviously it sounds to me like you stayed in the corporate world until you retired.
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Ron Kupferberg
No. Yeah. No.
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Glen Gould
Were you how did you end up in Georgia? I guess that’s really the question.
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Ron Kupferberg
Okay. That’s the question. Then I can answer that through a lot of other changes in job functions. I was in Green Bay, Wisconsin, working for a company called Shopko, which is a something like a Walmart.
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Glen Gould
Right.
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Ron Kupferberg
And they were not doing well and had to let me go. I was actually hired by somebody who recommended me and hired me as she was an executive at Kellogg, which is another department store right in the Northeast. Shopko is basically in the Midwest to the West Coast at the time. And so she got me a job there when the calendar went out of business and I started there for about a year.
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Ron Kupferberg
I was there and and they had been losing money also. So I found myself looking for another job and I found I didn’t want to stay in Green Bay. Right. So I found a job in Peachtree City called Goody Products.
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Glen Gould
Okay.
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Ron Kupferberg
All right. So I worked for Goody Products for a while, and.
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Glen Gould
Now that’s like nail clippers and homes and stuff like that.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah, hair products for especially women and stuff like that. And now they stay here. They’re in the north side of Atlanta. Okay. They were they’re a division of Newell Rubbermaid.
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Glen Gould
Right.
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Ron Kupferberg
So anyway, I didn’t want to move with them and I just said, you know, I’m going to leave. And at that point, I was 55.
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Glen Gould
And is this where you made the big change?
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Ron Kupferberg
This is where I started. Yeah, yeah, that’s where I started. I but my change wasn’t in photography. It was whatever I wanted to do.
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Glen Gould
Okay.
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Ron Kupferberg
Okay. And I didn’t it’s hard to explain because what I got into was what I was doing something off when I was in the military. And that is I was I got into security when I was hired by the provost marshal. That’s part of the the piece. I had to do some MP work like traffic control and and this kind of thing.
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Glen Gould
And so you got into security and then you decided that it was time to be a police officer.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah. Well, yes, actually, I started as an armed security officer and then I said, you know, the money is where armed officers made. Yeah, got some. So I started working as an armed officer for the for some government agencies in Atlanta and. And some private agencies are private companies. Sure. And some of the guys I was working with at one point said, hey, you know, College Park is looking for police officers.
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Ron Kupferberg
Are you, you know, interested? And I said, you know, I’m 59 years old.
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Glen Gould
59, and you’re going to become a police officer. Well, go to the academy.
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Ron Kupferberg
Yeah. They said, you know, I said, well, who’s going to hire me at 59? Yeah, especially the police department. And they said, oh, what have you got to lose? So myself and three other guys took the test. Two of them flunked out myself and another guy passed that particular test. We went on through taking psychological tests, physical tests, blah, blah, blah, unimportant item.
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Ron Kupferberg
And finally, the guy, College Park Police Department offered me a job.
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Glen Gould
And how long did you serve?
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Ron Kupferberg
I served in College Park for a year. Yeah, and then I went to Palmetto for four and a half years. Okay, Palmetto. And after that, I went to Fairburn and rode out. The last part of that was 65 at the time. And I said, Now’s the time that I’m going to start my photography.
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Glen Gould
So you started you started when you retired from the police force? Yes. And and it’s always been here. Yes. Oh, that’s great. Now, tell us a little bit about the types of work that you do. You know, who like a you know, a typical client is what they’re looking for. And and, you know, kind of this. Give us that background.
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Glen Gould
Well.
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Ron Kupferberg
I advertise that I shoot headshots. I started doing fashion. I’ve done fashion.
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Glen Gould
And you do product, too, don’t you?
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Ron Kupferberg
I do product photography for catalogs or promotional material.
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Glen Gould
Right.
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Ron Kupferberg
How what else do I do? I take shoot events.
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Glen Gould
Right? You did. As a matter of fact, Ron did served us with Southeastern Assistance and health care for a big casino night last few thank you very much for that beautiful pictures. So I mean, mostly you’re a people photographer, though. Yes, for the most part. I mean, because because landscapes don’t necessarily pay you. Well, people do get you get the pun.
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Glen Gould
So but I mean, you can pretty much do anything if somebody wanted a particular photograph of a particular landscape, you’re happy to do that. Briefly, how challenging is it? Because. All right. A lot of our viewers are people who are in business. And we’ve all had some interesting challenges. Certainly, I’m sure COVID was interesting for you, just like it was all of us.
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Glen Gould
But in just the after world or the before world, let’s not focus on COVID. It has to be challenging in your industry, especially because everyone walks around with a camera nowadays and everybody thinks they’re a photographer. Yes. And of course, these companies are selling these products based on I mean, like I’ve forgotten the one that I guess Android that had the big low light thing recently a couple about a year ago.
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Glen Gould
Cell phones. Yeah. With, you know take pictures in low light and stuff. So those are great for capturing those in life moments. But I just I think that you really have to understand that when you’re capturing something that’s going to be a permanent fixture, something that, you know, you want to remember for the rest of your life in a way that was, you know, different than just a look.
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Glen Gould
Right? That’s when you become a professional photographer.
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Ron Kupferberg
If there was. Yes. Yeah. There’s certainly a difference between, I think, a professional photographers view and equipment than a cell phone. You can get lucky with a cell phone, don’t get me wrong. And I’ve taken many shots with cell phones, but it’s it’s limited. And in the variety of lenses that you have the ability to change the lens.
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Ron Kupferberg
Sure. Take a very close macro shot of something that could be very interesting and or, you know, just a flower and how you can put it on something like Photoshop and make it, you know, a piece of art.
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Glen Gould
Yeah. I first noticed the difference when my son invested in an expensive camera. Obviously, it’s been a lot of years now, so it’s it’s not quite a state of the art as it was. But then he started taking photographs of events that I was working when I was with the Newnan-Coweta Chamber. And he would take pictures of of like table settings and things like that.
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Glen Gould
I was just like, wow. I mean, it’s so much different. It’s so much different. It’s almost like for me, it brings it brings things to life. They I guess it’s the contrast. I don’t know. I mean, I don’t have an eye for it, but I’m sure that, you know, there’s a reason for it. But it’s just it’s just there.
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Glen Gould
So if if somebody were to want to have some photographs by you, how would they get in touch with you?
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Ron Kupferberg
Well, they could go on my website arkaystudios.com And there is a place at the after you can review all the pictures and kind of genres that I take in my career. There is a place for contact information.
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Glen Gould
Cool. You know, one of the great things about your place being in your home, I know that, you know, some people might think that’s a little unusual. They would have a long time ago now. It’s probably not. But the great thing is, is that it’s you see, everything is here, you know, that everything necessary to do a great job is here.
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Glen Gould
And yet you don’t feel that uncomfortable feeling of walking into a retail location where it’s a little stiffer, it’s a little more controlled. I mean, it’s a very comfortable atmosphere here.
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Ron Kupferberg
Oh, I. I appreciate it. Yeah. Now, that’s not to say I don’t do things on location.
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Glen Gould
Oh, no, I’m sure you do. Yeah, I’m sure you do. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, you like I said, you did for us. And you I’ve heard you’ve done so many other organizations, little personal real quick and then we’ll we’ll wrap up. You’ve lived here in this area, what, eight years?
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Ron Kupferberg
20 years
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Glen Gould
Yeah. Okay, 20 years. But in this in this in this location. How are you living? 20 years. In what? Yeah, that’s right. I’m sorry. I got confused. So you’ve lived here 20 years, and I’m sure that you’ve been to a lot of places. What’s your favorite thing about living in in the area that you live in, in between Peachtree City and Newnan in the Sharpsburg region?
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Ron Kupferberg
I think the I’ve learned to really love this area because first of all, I’ve I’ve grown to know a lot of people. Right when I was doing security at Pinewood, Atlanta Studios, I was the person that people would come. And if they went to the Hanna Brother’s Cafe, they would see me first because they’d have to sign in.
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Ron Kupferberg
And on Wednesday mornings they have the services, the religious services at in the head brothers. And I just realized how many more people I’ve met doing that for the four years that I was there. Wow.
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Glen Gould
Yeah.
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Ron Kupferberg
And while I now on my own, I see them walking around, so I feel very comfortable. It feels like home.
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Glen Gould
It really it’s it it’s it’s an interesting area how easy it is to to feel comfortable. Yeah, well, the people are pretty, pretty, doggone great here. And so I asked this when every once in a while favorite restaurant in the area I liked.
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Ron Kupferberg
I don’t have much. Let me qualify that. There is a Japanese restaurant that I have never been to, but I know the owner, Alvin. He just opened up a restaurant called Sensu and Trilith.
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Glen Gould
Okay.
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Ron Kupferberg
Town of trilith. I haven’t been there yet because it’s. I couldn’t get a reservation, but I’m sure if he’s anything like he is and was at Ginza, which was his place. Okay city that would be my favorite place.
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Glen Gould
Well, super.
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Ron Kupferberg
Simple as that.
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Glen Gould
So Ron, thanks so much for taking time today and giving us the history of you. You know, what has you know, everybody’s background develops and then it has an impact on what they do in the future. We’re the sum total of our interactions and thoughts and to have such an unbelievably diverse background, it really probably makes it more easy for you to bring out the diverse backgrounds of other people when you shoot them.
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Glen Gould
So I’m sure that and I’ve seen your work, it’s it’s amazing. So I want to thank you for taking time with us today. And once again, if somebody wants to get in touch with Ron Kupferberg, they have some work done. It’s our studios that’s arkaystudios.com. And Ron, just thanks so much. I hope you have a wonderful day.
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Ron Kupferberg
Thank you.
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Glen Gould
Appreciate it by now. Thanks so have a great afternoon.